Every pet owner needs to realize just what vaccines can do to their pet.
We urge you to talk with a holistic vet who uses titer testing to reveal your dog’s immune level to the disease based on his last vaccination.  If you can’t find a vet yourself, Dr. Robb (who is fighting hard against against the old rabies law, plus the over-vaccination of our pets) will do the titer test for you and tell you exactly how much of the vaccine is left in your dog’s body.  Find out more about Dr. below along with the link to order a titer test from Dr. himself.This is much better and far safer than just vaccinating a dog when it doesn’t need it!

Many (if not most) traditional vets push vaccinations because it’s a reoccurring stream of money for their practice. Read this article from a vet (and the comments from other pet owners) who discuss this very issue of how the majority of traditional vets don’t want to give up over-vaccinating

dogs and cats, because of the profit it brings in for them; even though they know how unsafe this practice is for our pets.

As a pet owner, you MUST understand how over vaccinating can hurt, cause long-term disease, illness, paralysis and kill your furry family member.

One key thing to remember when getting any type of vaccination for your pet is to always ask for KILLED CELL VACCINES and NEVER allow them to use MODIFIED LIVE VACCINES.  

RABIES is the only vaccination required by law in the U.S. , but not without risk!

Avoid Getting Sucked Into the Trap of Combination Vaccines and Over Vaccinating

I urge you to seek out a holistic vet for all of your dogs needs and make sure he (or she) does titer testing for vaccinations.  Unfortunately, many traditional vets are still over vaccinating by vaccinating more than necessary and many still use combination vaccines vs single.

What’s the difference? A combination vaccine is multiple vaccines for different diseases given in one injection which can cause many bad reactions in dogs. A single vaccine is just that; one vaccine per injection.  This doesn’t mean that your dog won’t have a reaction to a single dose; it just makes more sense to not bombard the body with mega doses of different diseases all at once making it even harder for the dog’s body to fight against.

It is easier for the body’s natural defense (both people and pets) to successfully respond to one vaccine at a time, while building immunity with less negative side effects. However, remember that you are not required by law to get any other vaccine except for rabies and many good vets like Dr. Robb at Protect the Pets (see his video and a link to donate to his wonderful cause below) are trying to get the rabies vaccine law changed.Holistic vets on the other hand typically use single vaccines for cat and dogs and most do use a safe test called “titer” for checking your dog’s antibody’s before vaccinating.  This is a pretty cheap blood test usually less than $50 bucks and it tells whether or not your dog is protected against a certain disease such as distemper, parvo, etc. and tells how much of the vaccine is left in the body.   So, you can see why it’s important to have a titer test done and not automatically bombard your dog with potentially hazardous shots when they are not necessary.  But unfortunately this test isn’t a waiver for the rabies vaccine that’s still mandatory in the U.S.

See Dr. Robb in action in the video below and PLEASE DONATE TO HIS CAUSE TO HELP ALL OF US.  You can make donations here.  Also, take notice how smug the pharmaceutical rep is towards this caring vet in the video.  Revaccinating for a disease, when the evidence shows that one vaccine will take care of it, is all about money folks!  SEEK OUT  a good holistic vet who does titer testing.  We pet owners MUST win this battle and Dr. Robb needs our help.  He knows that traditional veterinary care is now all about big money and they are making our dogs and cats sick at very young ages and then little can be done to help them.

How Can You Get a Titer Test for Your Dog?

Dr. Robb will do a titer for you.  Here’s a link to a form that explains what you need to do:  Order a Titer

Reactions Can Be Toxic and Show up Weeks and Months Later

Your dog might or might not react right away. In fact, he or she may not reveal the symptoms until 10-21 days after the vaccination.  FYI, certain vaccines can even cause symptoms of the disease that it’s meant to prevent. Here’s just a few of the symptoms:

  • Tumors
  • Lethargic
  • Atopic Dermatitis
  • Swelling of joints
  • Gastrointestinal upset
  • Lameness
  • Seizures
  • Wasting
  • Thyroid & Adrenal gland diseases
  • Rear end paralysis
  • Lack of energy
  • Decreased appetite
  • Kidney and liver disease
  • Hypo and Hyperthyroidism
  • Scared and fearful

Treating Vaccination Reactions

There are several homeopathic remedies that they say can work pretty well for preventing and even reversing reactions from the rabies vaccine.  Keep Thuja on hand and administer daily for 6 weeks prior to the rabies vaccine.

Here’s a list of the most common remedies and what they can help with. If you think your dog is having issues related to a vaccination, these remedies can help.

Dr. Dobias recommends giving dogs Lyssin 200C after the the rabies vaccination as a preventative step for reactions to the vaccine. However, Elixers sells Lyssin here and recommends giving it before the vaccine. They give very detailed dosages as well.

Thuja can help with: general annoyance due to the vaccine, anxiety, diarrhea, tumors and warts, coughing, fever, swelling, leg difficulty, abdominal pain, tumors, asthma, rear end paralysis, and infection. Dosage: 30C once daily orally for five days.

Silicea is often recommended in addition to Thuja.  However, holistic vet Dr. Pitcairn DOES NOT recommend Silicea, he actually recommends vitamin C in addition to Thuja.  Here’s the symptoms Silicea can help with in regards to vaccines: fear and anxiety, skin and anal gland issues, coldness, chronic inflammation and abscesses. Dosage: 30C 3 times daily.

Dr. Pitcairn recommends Vitamin C before and after vaccinations. Athough dogs manufacture their own vitamin C (unlike humans), it’s believed that supplementing with vitamin before and after can help reverse symptoms associated with the vaccine. You must work up to the recommended dosage of vitamin C, because it will cause diarrhea. We recommend starting at the minimum and working up to the max over a week’s time.  DO NOT give absorbic acid, it’s too strongSodium Ascorbate or Ester C are recommended.   Dosage for dogs is as follows:

  • Small: 500mg – 1,000mg
  • Medium – Large: 1,000mg – 2,000mg
  • Giant: 2,000mg – 4,000mg

Bentonite Clay should be used to remove the toxic vaccine from the liver, kidneys and blood.  You must feed this with wet food in order to activate the clay.  Hopefully you are not feeding canned dog food or kibble. You absolutely must move to a good diet of raw, home cooked or both.   This is the clay we use and recommend: Earth’s Natural Clay

The dosage for the clay is as follows:

up to 20 lbs        1/2 tsp

20-50 lbs            1 tsp

50-90 lbs.           1 Tbsp

90 lbs & up        1-2 Tbsp

Rabies Vaccine – U.S. Law Only Requires Rabies Vaccine – No Others

It’s important for pet owners to realize that whether or not your dog or cat receives a one year or a three year rabies vaccine – the vaccines in the bottles are identical and the only difference is the label on the bottle itself. The label on the bottle is simply to satisfy current laws.  Also, research has and is being done to show that a dog vaccination for rabies lasts roughly 5-10 years.

So, if your pet’s veterinarian uses a rabies vaccine with a label that states “1 year or annual rabies vaccine” on the bottle, your pet will be required by law to get another rabies shot the following year.

However, if the doctor uses a bottle labeled “3 year rabies vaccine” then your pet won’t be required to get another rabies vaccine for 3 years. Pet owners should insist that their veterinarian use a rabies vaccine with a “3 year label” on the bottle.

Why are so Many Vets Over Vaccinating

Why are so many veterinarians still pushing unnecessary dog vaccinations and booster shots (NEVER BOOSTER)?  Think about it.   It’s a very steady income regardless of how bad it is for your pet.

DON’T BE AFRAID to ask questions and explain your feelings to your vet regarding vaccinating your dog.  If the vet doesn’t take kindly to your questions, look for another vet; it’s that simple. After all, this is a family member. Don’t ever leave your dog’s health completely in your vet’s hands. Just like your child’s care, you wouldn’t leave every decision regarding their health to a pediatrician – you want to know the what’s and why’s and then make an informed decision! The same should be done for your dog.

It is believed that over vaccinating contributes to many health problems in both people and pets.  It’s believed that vaccines cause cancer in our four legged friends. Dogs today are dying of cancer more than any other disease and it’s rampant.  This is truly disturbing for holistic veterinarians who believe in treating the whole dog and not just symptoms.

Most holistic vets believe that vaccinating dogs annually is not only unnecessary, but unsafe for the dog.  A safer approach is to run blood tests and vaccine titer tests to see if a vaccine is necessary. Holistic veterinarians typically accept that vaccinations last 5-10 years and ONLY vaccinate if the annual titer test comes back negative.

Dr. Andrew Jones Shares His Recommendations in the Video Below

Times You Should NEVER Vaccinate Your Dog

  1. Dogs who have cancer and are undergoing chemo/radiation therapy
  2. Dogs  of any age who are sick or recovering from ANY disease or sickness
  3. Dog is acting like something is wrong, but the vet tells you he can’t find anything
  4. Dogs suffering from malnutrition
  5. Dogs infected with parasites
  6. Dogs suffering with chronic stress
  7. Dogs who are older period (we consider older 9 years old and up)
  8. Dogs who are older with a weakened immune system
  9. Dogs who may be dying
  10. Dogs that developed any type of reaction when vaccinated before

Why I Want to Spread The Word About Dog Vaccines

I would like you to really think about the consequences that vaccinations can have on the immune system of your pet.  The body’s immune system is the foundation to good health or bad.  It CANNOT handle what is being forced upon them.



One Reference:  The Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog

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    Please may I ask if your advice on dogs also applies to cats? I just got my first cats, about 1year olds. Do they need vacinations like dogs? Thank You I rescued them off the street and dont know any history. Again, Thank You

  • glen novinski

    i took my best friend slicker an 8 year old straffordshire to a so called vet to find out what these under skin hardly noticeable lifts were they looked like a bite before i knew anything the guy gave slicker a shot the tech askef me another question and the vet gave slicker a second shot. he said slicker was 15 lbs overweight and the marks on his belly were flea bites or mosqiuito all 30 of them. 3 days later slicker starts not being himself. he was isolating stopped eating 7 days after vet visit. i sent slicker home on july 27 2018 at 4PM. i rescued slicker from what was a ongoing
    criminal enterprise. they tried to make slicker fight i was told and he wouldnt and they made a 75 year old man attempt to get rid of him. i met slicker at a gas station he jumped in my truck. i recieved over 50 stitches the night i wen back to rescue slicker. this vet took the only good thing in my life. is this going to be the norm. just one more thing we become complacent about. when is it enuff . when does all this money mongering greed addicted people start being held accountable for their actions. slicker was liked in my little town and well known in fowlerville where im from. my friends call and ask how slicker is pretty much before the conversation starts. can u please for the safety of other animals please help me with any resources so that i can persue in having this vets licsence at least suspended so that other victims may come forward. im hearing alot of negative things about him.

    • janie

      Hi Glen:

      I’m so very sorry. I just sent you a private email.


  • Janet Greenwald

    I wish I had found this site earlier! Last Sept., I had my 17 year old peek a poo vaccinated, again, because the vet told me to. I had done yearly vaccines on all my dogs. I asked her at the time if she could have a reaction because of her age, but she said no. Like a fool, I trusted her. Right away my perfectly healthy little doggie began having issues like urinating constantly and drinking water excessively. I took her back to the vet and they ran tests and said her levels in her kidneys were elevated. They sold me a type of food which is supposed to be good for the kidneys and she seemed pretty normal after that. Now, 9 months later, the same thing is happening and they tell me she is in renal failure. They gave her enalapril and it has stopped her symptoms for now. My question is, are there side affects from this drug? Should I give her something natural in addition to this drug? Thank you for your advice. Can this drug keep the renal failure at bay? Her heart and lungs are strong. She has no arthritus that I can tell.

  • Sloane Eusebio

    Please help! I took my 11 you American Eskimo/Beagle mix (American Eagle) for his 3 year rabies shot 10/2017. He had not had any vaccines other than rabies since age 2 or 3. He has been on an organic and on a grain free diet forever, lives a healthy life, no lawn chemicals, well water, no longer doing flea/tic treatment in years, only do a few heartworm pills per year, no synthetic chemicals at home except some occasional bleach or windex as needed, but mostly natural cleaners, detergents, etc, etc. We did get him at age one from a shelter, so I can not speak to his history before that. But he should have pretty low risk factors for cancer. However guess what he came down with about 2 months after vaccination: Cushing’s Disease, which was recently confirmed to be linked to a left adrenal gland tumor. US revealed the tumor, and some secondary liver enlargement, but other organs look perfect. No current suspicion of metastasis, but who knows. Would you take the risk of surgery in this case? And I truly believe that vaccine put him into this condition. My vet was commenting at that physical when he gave the shot how wonderful and healthy my dog was, how well he was aging. When I brought him in to the vet due to the Cushing’s sympotms in the winter of 2018, the vet’s face dropped at the mere sight of my sick boy. How can such a rare tumor (only 1-2% of dog tumors) have happened without other cancer-causing risk factors? HMM>>>

    • janie

      Hi Sloane:

      I’m sorry to hear about your old boy. Let me get back to you shortly.

      I WILL get back to you.


  • Lynette

    Hello, last month I took 13 yr old pit bull to the vet for annual exam. I was told , time for distemper vaccine. Within 2 days he developed a fatty tumor growth on his right outer thigh. And is becoming increasingly lame. I think it’s related. He was a very healthy and strong dog. He had lymes at 4yrs of age but it was under control. The vet wants to do trays, I won’t he’s in so much discomfort. If never put him they that. He cries when his legs are touched. Right now we’re giving him tramadol and I’m looking into CBD spray to spray in his mouth and perhaps the bentonite clay. Please help I feel helpless cedar is my baby.

    • janie

      Hi Lynette:

      I’m sorry to hear about your old boy. I sent you a private email.


  • E

    I really need advice!!! Our dog is 9 years old, soon 10, ive been his owner for two years. She has never been vaccinated in her lifetime, so I dont know what should we do. It says that you should not vaccinate over 9 year old dog but what about it, when she never had any vaccines? She is old, but acts like a puppy and looks too, everyone think she is a puppy. So anyway, what do YOU recommend? Ive been reading countless articles and I will speak with vet too, but I dont knwo what to do. In our country mostly every vet want to vaccine animals for everything. But like rabbies, our country want to get them vaccinetad every 2 years (it changed recently, last year was in every 1 year) but we havent had any rabbie situation in our country for 7 YEARS, and in 11 years only few has been beside the border of Russia. So we are really confused and still, after reading A LOT, dont know what would be right desicion. My husband thinks not vaccinating but I really dont know 🙁 I will not let to do all of those never, because we dont socialice with other dogs, but what about parvo and calci…

    • janie

      Hi E:

      Chances are your dog is so healthy because she hasn’t been vaccinated over and over. I would not allow a vet in your country to talk you into vaccinating. I recommend that you stop reading, take your husband’s advice and allow your dog to live a happy healthy life with you just the way she is. As long as you don’t allow your dog to run wild and you supervise her at all times, I would leave a good thing alone.


      • E

        Not vaccinating was what I was tent (dont know excact word) more. Just, tomorrow we got vet appoitment for blood test, to see if she is alright and I knew they will make us feel bad because not vaccinating, that was why I was so overwhelmed with reading. I read every article about side effects, but every site before this one, said that these are not common. But my mind was so blown about good and bad sides. I was sure that I will not let them to all vaccines, but wasnt sure about parvo, calci and one more.

        Thank you very much for your advice! What I was confused about was the part about that, if dog has been vaccinated before, you dont need to, but what if she never had. Anyway I really appreciate your answer. And we contacted to out local homeopath, who have studied it in finland university, and we get appoitment with her too. Because I feel like we should not let vaccinate her, but I need some more encourage and information to know that we do is right thing. And maybe some tips how we can feed her best food and care for her in best way, so her immunity is strong.

  • Patty

    I wish I’d found this website earlier. Last January we took our 14+ year old Pomeranian to the vet for an annual checkup. During the visit the vet said she needed an annual booster, which she administered. Five hours later my husband and I noticed our pom’s heartbeat could be heard from 5 feet away! We called the office, they said, sounds like hpb, next time we’ll give her benedryl first. In two days she was dead from CHF and pulmonary edema. How we miss her!

    • janie

      Hi Patty:

      I’m so sorry to hear about your loss. We are hearing more and more cases of dogs dying of heart issues shortly after vaccinations. It would have been nice if the vet’s office said “your girl is old. why would we want to do that to her.” But they don’t. It’s ALL about the money Patty! Sadly.

      I’m so sorry for your loss. I know this feeling. Educate yourself for the future and protect your pets. Titer test always. Support Dr. Robb at protectthepets.com in his fight against those that care more about money than your dog or my dog (or cat).

      I know you miss her. I’ll be thinking of you.


  • Patricia Ortiz

    Hello. My 17-pound dog is 15.5 years old and six months ago his titers came back that he did not have protection against distemper. Just last week, the titers came back that he has lost immunity to parvo and distemper. Admittedly, it’s been a good 8-10 years since he was last vaccinated. He is relatively healthy for his age. Decent kidneys (slightly elevated), a good liver and thyroid, a strong healthy heart, but bad arthritis which he takes Galliprant, Gabapentin and now Adequan for. I work in rescue and I’ve seen the consequences of vaccines, it’s no coincidence. The vet wants me to vaccinate him. But I’m so torn. Others tell me not to vaccinate because where I live, Manhattan (NYC) there’s no parvo or distemper. What do you say? Vaccinate or not?

    • janie


      I would NEVER vaccinate my 15.5 year old dog, period!!!!!!!!! Does your dog run around Manhattan on his own? I assume he is with you at all times?

      If you do, I would almost guarantee that your old timer will not be with you long.

      Please DON’T vaccinate him.


  • Sherryl whitney

    Please help me, my four year old mix breed rescue dog who is also my service dog had her vaccinations this year and has had issues ever since. It started with a lump in the side that should have been the parvo/distemper vaccination, the vets insisted that’s not where she got her shot as I did not see it myself and they wanted more money to explore what it was, I refused and went to two other vets who agreed it was a vaccine reaction, the best I got was that these reactions sometimes happen and in time it will go away, but shortly after the lump appeared she started having joint issues, she literally went out one morning and came in limping and over time and rest and I started her on glucosamine she is better than she was initially but still has issues getting up and stiffness in her hips, I spent thousands and lots of time and energy training her to be a diabetic alert dog as I am a brittle type1 diabetic and she was working fine alerting regularly until her vaccinations required by law for her to have public access as a service dog, she’s not alerting anymore, you can see her smell the scent and think about if she can get up to alert, I think it’s too much trouble for her, she was fine before her vaccinations, I can’t afford a holistic vet, I can’t afford the titers, my newer vet said they are about $250, I’m disabled and fighting for disability. I feel like vaccinations broke my dog, she’ll be five in March and I have to think about getting a new dog trained for my service dog because I need a service dog, but I love my dog I wish she was okay, I can retire her but I think it would crush her to be left at home and for me to take another dog out when I leave, is there any hope to reverse what’s happened?

    • janie

      Hi Sherryl:

      I’m so very sorry. This is literally sickening! There are thousands and thousands of stories of these vaccines making our dogs sick and also killing them. It is truly heartbreaking.

      It’s not our imagination. It IS happening from the vaccines. They just don’t want to admit it, because it will affect their bottom line.

      We can try to reverse it. Watch the video in this article here: Rabies Vaccine and Rear End Paralysis Also, make sure you watch the video in this article about Dr. Robb who is fighting this battle of the rabies vaccine and trying to make change. Please watch it, learn it and understand what is happening with our dogs and these vaccines. The Harmful Effects of Dog Vaccines

      We will have to include several supplements and look at the diet. Same thing we did for ISO who has fully recovered. Let me know if you want to move forward.


  • imissmydog

    so either dog gets rabies or gets a shot that causes everything but rabies. i cannot have a dog again in this society, vaccines killed my 3 year old dog, his last moments were hourly siezures, and liver failure. spread awareness, vaccines kill. the vet tried to say it wasnt the shot but he was perfectly fine until he got it, then over night he descended into a state of despair that causes tears from my eyes just thinking about. please, if you love your dog, do research. i wish i did, its sad we live in a society where people want to poison our dogs for money, and lie and say it will help…
    R.I.P. Buddy

    • janie

      Hi imissmydog:

      I’m so sorry to hear about your young boy. This breaks my heart to read, yet I know how often this happens and you’re right when you say that the veterinarians claim that it has nothing to do with vaccines; yet all these healthy dogs aren’t just suddenly developing seizures and disease before the vaccine(s).

      I wish that I could say something to make you feel better, but I know that there is nothing. Keep spreading the word and help Dr. Robb in his efforts to change this horrific, outdated law of vaccinating our dogs like this.

      I pray that you find peace in your heart and mind in knowing that you’ll see Buddy one day over the rainbow bridge.


      • imissmydog

        thank you for your kind reply Janie, I know this isn’t the place for my emotional venting and I didn’t mean to come off offensively to vets, i know there are amazing and loving veterinarians out there, but there are cruddy ones too – one told my mother it was not the shot, but there is no doubt in our minds it was, he never had any health problems before, or seizures, but not two weeks later and all at once his liver started acting up and he turned yellow from jaundice and would barely eat, then the seizures started a couple days later and quickly became bad and hourly.

        Vet also said the internet has a lot of misinformation and not to believe it all, but it’s like… no-Duh! Of course the internet has misinformation, but that doesn’t mean its all false. Also it didn’t take the internet to put 2 and 2 together, we had a healthy happy young dog, he gets a vaccination, then Liver failure. I think anyone with common sense could see what happened. I won’t let this go, they killed my dog, my mother is blaming herself for taking him to get the shot, but she didn’t know the dangers and they neglected to tell her… I just feel like this isn’t right and this shouldn’t continue to kill other innocent dogs… sorry, venting again. if you made it through this long sad post congratulations and thanks again for your kind response.

        • janie

          Hi Imissmydog:

          Please do not apologize for venting. This is an issue that we are extremely passionate about and you have EVERY right.

          They continue to lie about the harm that these vaccines are causing. Like you said, it’s common sense. I see this way more than you know. I talk to people almost daily about their dog and what happened after a vaccine. This IS NOT coincidence.

          My prayers are with you and your mom and again, I’m very sorry, but don’t apologize. Feel free to vent as much as you like and let others know!


  • Helen

    Forgive me for contradicting you, but it is the THREE (3) YEAR vaccine that causes the ascending paralysis. It is a weakened live virus, that becomes “activated”, causing a pseudo-rabies, and the VIRUS itself eats the Myelin sheath off the neurons of the CNS. The killed vaccine, ONE YEAR, cannot do this. It is subject to cause many of the other reactiobs, as any of many vaccines can, but the ascending paralysis is SPECIFIC to ascending paralysis. Most often, dogs 8 and ilder, but then many breeds of purebreds are affected regardless of age. Huskies, Weimaraners, Maltese, Bull dog breeds, including Bull terriers, and mini-bull terriers. But, all breeds are affected. Get the ONE YEAR, and then have titers done. Most counties will accept titer certification in-lieu of vaccination.
    Again, apologies for the contradiction, but it is correct information. Research first done in England, now in the US has proven the 3 year to be the culprit. There is a saliva test that can be done, but if a dog received the 3 yr vaccine, the ascending paralysis can start immediately (30 min) to months out. As you indicated. And, many uninformed vets waste time blaming the other vaccines a dog may have received, or denying that it has anything at all to do with the rabies vaccine. Owners should stick to their guns, when this ascending paralysis starts after rabies vaccine, when they return to the vet. I’ve put down a 4 year lid Weimaraner, and have friends who’ve list Huskies, maltese, minibull terriers, and other breeds. I am a microbiologist, and a nurse. If that helps with credibility. Never the 3 year. Only the ONE year, and follow that with titers. In some dogs, that one year vaccine can provide “acceptable immunity” for 11 years. Me personally, I don’t vaccinate my inside dogs. I have to, of course, if I take them in for treatment. But, at least, I buy time.

  • Karen Mitchell

    Titre testing less than $50 bucks? Are you kidding me? It obviously depends on where you’re from. I don’t know where you are, but I’m in Western Australia and the vets here charge almost $280 . It’s not cheap. They’re being sneaky and making it the same price as the vaccinations!
    The vets here have two vaccinations, one which lasts 12 months and another which lasts 3 years. The later is a lot stronger apparently , well duh!

    • janie

      Hi Karen:
      That’s a shame that they charge that much. I’m in Western PA and titer testing is $66.00 at my veterinarian’s office for Distemper and Parvo. That’s that standard diseases they check for. Rabies they can do, but it wouldn’t hold up in court if needed, because the rabies vaccine is mandatory every 3 years.

      Unfortunately, it’s always an uphill battle for pet owners.


  • russ

    Thank you for your help. Bubba my old boy with the weak rear end. Well while cutting his nails his rear end was not so weak. He got up 3 times to relocate so i could not reach him. I still have to do his front nails. This may sound stupid but the dog has always been a bit neurotic. I saved him as a puppy i do not know about his previous life other than mistreatment. If i even raise my voice he hides. I will see if I can find a holistic vet here.

    He seems to lack appetite and is lazy. He just lost his little buddy so that may be part of it. He has in the past been difficult to treat due to being “quirky”. A simple grooming may take hours. I do want BOTH dogs to have their skin examined by a vet. Will fish oil such as cod liver oil help? It helped my Sharpei.

    Beaux the youngest is a Mastif/dane mix. So he may be prone to some skin issues. I tried applying vitamin E and fish oil. Perhaps a good internal dose as well. Bubba the old man has the skin tags and warts. At the base of his tail he seems to have a scabby patch. I thought fleas and it has healed. Some dead skin sluffed off under the scab. He seems okay, but it is a fav spot to scratch. I use a hospital cleanser there they use for bed baths. He tends to collapse during a bath lol. But he always has.

    I am curious about a DNA test for Beaux. Since he is a mix, maybe a test can determine any future risks of cancer or other issues. Has anyone had experience with this? I apologize for the length of my posts. It seems that I found this blog just before taking both boys to the vet for tests and treatments.

    So you are getting all the questions the vet would. Thanks

    • admin

      Hi Russ:
      You are right when you say “perhaps a good internal dose of fish oil.” It will definitely help with the skin. Dogs should always be given a good form of fatty acids DAILY (fish or flaxseed oil)! However, you have to watch which brands of fish oil you buy. Many are loaded with mercury and other toxins found in our oceans. While I typically recommend another salmon oil; they seem to have a hard time stocking it, so I’m going to add one more to my list of good, toxin free fish oils. This salmon oil is made my Lifespan and what I like about it is that it also includes COQ10 which is EXCELLENT for heart and brain health. I actually now prefer this one because it has a nice balance of the different omega 3 fatty acids along with the COQ10.

      Remember how important a good food is with a QUALITY MEAT source. Food is the single most important thing that you’ll do for your dogs and their skin, heart, kidneys and liver. If you have filtered water at home; share it with your dogs. Don’t forget about the flea treatment we discussed and please, please, please remember to limit vaccines. By feeding a GOOD food with GOOD MEAT, adding a probiotic and fatty acids (fish oil) to the diet, using a natural flea spray and limiting vaccines (use Thuja before getting vaccines); you’re dog’s skin should recover unless there’s an underlying illness that we don’t know of. You can also include a Ester C (I get mine from Costco) daily for your old guy. This will also help with the immune system and with inflammation.

      Regarding DNA testing; I don’t have any experience in this area, but I am curious about it. Here’s a very informative article on the subject Russ.

      Please refer to my other messages for links, etc. I hope this helps Russ.


  • rusty

    I wish i had found this blog long ago.

    I have 2 dogs and I just had one put down. His body just wore out. My oldest now, named Bubba is an English Setter about 17. He had a rabies vaccine about 2 years ago. It was required to have him groomed. He started having weakness in his hind legs. About a month ago he slid down some stairs on his belly. Since he has had more problems getting up and around. I know part of his problem is his nails get long and he loses traction on my wood floors. What is puzzling is the dog has always seemed a bit neurotic and clumsy since the day I rescued him. If he slips he seems to lose confidence trying to get up and will scoot over to a rug or his bed then get up. In the yard he is slow and seems a bit unstable but not nearly as bad as when in my house. I have to mildly sedate him to cut his nails. He has never liked his feet messed with and will pull away or nudge me with his head because I have cut his nails to short. Also he has several skin tags and warts. The vet has just said to leave the tags and warts alone.

    I saw that Thuja seemed to help with oral warts but what about regular skin warts? As far as the weakness and paralysis. It either comes and goes or he is scared at times to get up. Will Thuja help with this? Today he has just laid about. If I bring him water he seems to just settle for that and not really want to get up and get it. But at the same time at times if he slips he will wait for me to help him up or when I do he rolls over. He has always been skittish. He was abandoned and mistreated when I took him in. I know he has some physio issues maybe neuro as well and well also sorta spoiled. Right now I am not sure what to do for him other than to see another vet. I just changed vets because my old one sort of just acted non chalont about it and that he was just old. I have tried some Rymadyl but it did not seem to help. So I want another eval but I don’t want to be persuaded to put him down if there is another path. So I ask advice…?

    My other boy is a two year old mastif/dane mix. Beaux is a horse of a dog. He runs bubba over often just due to being a bit rowdy. He has only had one rabies injection and probably no more. His problem is skin. He had two spots that seemed to just appear on his lower back and side. One vet tried antibiotics but to no avail. Another vet suggested they were ” just skin tumors” and to leave them be. However they have spread. I thought possibly a reaction to a bug bite. I used Advantix on him and they seemed to get a bit better. I cannot find a flea on him. The “bites” seem to be dark crusty bumps. They don’t seem to bother him unless he scratches one. What if any product would you recommend? He also has some traction issues on my floors but his nails I can cut.

    So I am more worried about his skin. Any ideas other than maybe a biopsy of the bites. I forgot to mention about the older dog Bubba. I just attempted to cut his nails and he resisted, then raised up off his bed and relocated to a place hard for me to reach him. My point is that he seemed to have good strength then? I personally have broken my back in a couple places and I know for a human sometimes nerve issues can come and go. But he is so hard to diagnose. At the vets office he will stand reasonably strong.

    Then I get him home and a wind can knock him over. I lately have noticed his legs crossing as he scoots. But it really appears as though that if he really wants to, he can move much better. I don’t know if he is just gotten old. If I can improve his quality of life even a little, then I will. But I am stuck. At his age the first answer a vet gives is he is old and it may be time. But knowing his mental state and how odd he has always been, I hesitate to just put him down. His nails are my fault I have learned at his expense unfortunately how serious long nails can be.

    Sorry for the long post and flipping back and forth. I hope this is not to confusing. Thanks…

    • admin

      Hi Rusty aka Russmeister:
      Ok, here goes….

      Unfortunately, Thuja probably won’t help with his trying to get up. You’re right though that Thuja is excellent for oral warts and that’s because this remedy is believed to work well with viral skin issues including those related to cancer. However, it should always be given before vaccines and well in advance of the vaccine. Remember this for Bubba and Beaux. In fact, I highly recommend NO MORE vaccines for your old boy, period and please, NO MORE chemical flea treatments for either dog. A good vet will provide you with a vaccination waiver due to Bubbas’ health, etc. Also, please try and find a good holistic vet in your area.

      Here’s what I use and recommend to all my visitors for flea/tick prevention. It’s effective and goes a long way — you just need a little spritz over the body (ruffle the fur) and it lasts for roughly 2 weeks on the skin. However, if walking in the woods or you’re in a high tick area, etc. use more frequently. Follow the instructions on the bottle.

      There’s a product called Dr. Buzby’s toe grips that receive outstanding reviews for giving older dogs traction for hardwood floors, etc. There’s no glue or anything involved. However, you need to measure your dog’s nail circumference to make sure that you get the right size. You also may need to have the nails clipped in order for these to work. However, they look awesome. I just found these and thought that they would be a better option than boots because they can stay on all the time. I think that these would be perfect for Bubba if you can get some help to clip the nails and put them on. They say that 95% of dogs don’t mind them because they are placed directly on the nail. They give instant traction. Here’s a link for you to check out.

      Regarding the skin issue; dark crusty scabs are often a symptom of a low thyroid problem or they could be what is called “comedomes” which are caused by an allergy and are a lot like black heads. They’re not a big deal if that’s what they are. My own Doberman has crusty black scabs due to Hypothyroidism. You can try gently rubbing the scabs with either witch hazel, raw virgin coconut oil or isopropyl rubbing alcohol. Repeat daily until you see progress. If Bubba is sensitive to cold, is a ravenous eater; he may be hypothyroid.

      I also recommend that you start including a fatty acid in his food if you’re not already doing so. Fatty acids are critical to the skin, heart, liver and kidneys. A MUST for any adult dog of any age. However, I’m including a lot of different products and recommendations for you here that will be very beneficial to Bubba, so if necessary you can add a little virgin olive oil to Bubba’s food daily if you need to spend the money elsewhere.

      I also highly recommend that you include a good probiotic and barley grass with his meals. Probiotics help fight disease and infection and build the immune system which is critical for Bubba. Barley grass is a super green food that contains chlorophyll. Of all the supplements that I think are critical for dogs, Barley Grass tops the list. It reduces pain and inflammation, fights cancer, promotes energy, supports the digestive system and even slows the aging process. It’s excellent for ALL DOGS, but older dogs can benefit greatly.

      I would rather see you invest in something to make Bubba comfortable such as the “Toe Grips” as discussed above. If he’s having problems with his hips or legs, this natural product receives very good reviews from dog owners over on Amazon. My husband takes a product similar to this daily for his knees and he can’t go without it. If he does, the pain returns.

      Diet is critical and I can’t emphasize this enough. Bubba and Beaux need a very good source of protein. I’m including a link to my 10 best foods for dogs page to help in that area. My favorite foods for dogs are dehydrated and freeze dried foods which are like home made and you just add warm water and wala, you have a home made meal.

      I hope this helps.
      Janie 😮

  • Tish

    Sorry I just saw this. Didn’t get an email notification. A homeopathic vet did give me thuja (sand like grains) that we gave last week 24 hours apart for 2 days, looked to me like an extremely small dose (about the size of a dash of salt). She also gave the same amount of lyssine to give this week the same way. He had the 2nd dose today. He’s such a happy boy and except for here at home with the sliding and difficulty rising and going down he seems like himself. Others can tell he’s different after he gets over his initial excitement. Neighbors have noticed his slope, bunny hop run and turned out toes. How often can you give thuja and for how long? What about heart worm , flea and other worm protection do you recommend. NO TRIFEXIS for us. My vet did swap me for advantage multi, hope that’s ok. I sent off for the MDR1 test kit for Eli. Now to get it done and sent in. Looking for an acupuncturist in the Birmingham, Al area. Thx for your help. You are right we have to help each other. Love my boy!!

    • admin

      Hi Tish:
      Thuja can be used indefinitely and the recommended dosage is 3-6 pellets or 3-6 drops a day if you’re using a liquid. As I mentioned in my first comment to you, I recommend that you include Ester C (500mg. day) as well to help build the immune system. One of my favorite holistic vets suggests that when using Thuja for vaccination issues.

      I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you NOT USE ADVANTAGE EVER!!! The product that I use on my own dogs and recommend to all my readers and clients is called TripleSure and it’s an all natural flea/tick repellent that works like a charm.

      We can’t do much about heartworm – however, if you live in an area of the country that has winter seasons, you can stop the heartworm for a couple of months since heartworm is transmitted by mosquitoes.


      • Tish

        I’ve poured over readings about heart worm meds and since he’s not going to take ivermectin, and we live in the south with terrible mosquitoes I’m not given much of an option. Revolution doesnt kill worms other than heart worms and I can take care of the fleas I hope. We are waiting on his myasthenia gravies test and MDR1 to come back. I’m thinking I’ll try the thuja, ester c and silicea and see what happens. Always any help or thoughts are welcomed 🙂

  • Tish

    We are suffering so much right now over our Eli, 9 yr old Old English Sheepdog. He’s got terrible rear end weakness. Not sure if it’s vaccine related or not. Been to local vets, specialist and a university neurologist. We’ve had ct scans, MRI, spinal tap, etc. and still no diagnosis. He began random pooping without knowing it in Feb. had rabies vaccine in April and now we are having the rear end issues and cognitive issues too. How can we test for this? Please help, we are disparate.

    • admin

      Hi Tish:
      I’m so sorry to hear about Eli. One product that I would recommend is called “Thuja” if you haven’t already tried it. This is good to give your old boy before he ever gets a vaccine (be sure to read my entire page about vaccines) because it often prevents side effects. However, it can help reverse side effects as well. I would follow the instructions on the bottle for dosage.

      It’s also recommended that Silicea be given at 200c (not sure how long, but I would give it until I start to see any positive changes). Here’s a link on Amazon: Silicea.

      Now Dr. Pitcairn recommends Thuja and Vitamin C, not Silicea. Tish, if it were me, I would give Eli the vitamin C as well as the other two remedies as an immune booster. I give my own dog Maggie (she’s only 4) one 500mg. Ester C daily.

      Please, please, please let me know how things go ok. This is critical for all us dog lovers.

      • Christy

        The seniors are so precious! I have an (almost) 14 yr old Doberman, who’s doing very well, walks 3 times a day, almost a mile each, and would go more if I let her. Recently, we went to the beach for a month and the change brought out some signs of cognitive dysfunction that I hadn’t seen/noticed previously. My vet sent me to Dr Shelton’ s AnimalEO web site for some oils, particularly NeuroBoost, which has been extremely. I highly recommend that you visit the site and read about what she’s doing. Enjoy that senior! 🙂

  • Jen

    Hi Janie,
    First I want to thank you for creating such informative site. Myself, am a believer of adoption, there are many homeless strays waiting for loving home. Adopted a JRT who walk up to me, was just skin and bones covered in cuts, it bring tears to my eyes. I asked him “would you like to follow me home?” I started walking and he followed, he been with me now for 3 years. Got another 2 adopted,
    Rescued 1 puppy wandering on the grassland and now home at a
    spacious kennel, her size not approved for my apartment. Another 2 homeless but feeling sad not able to afford them a place to stay but every morning will make a trip there to feed them before going to work. In total I hv 6 dogs to feed, come end of the year I will no
    longer hv a full time job 🙁 but i will never give up on them.

    Pls excuse me, am talking too much…. just that I hv a great passion for dogs since a little child and can go on and on 🙂 I better get to the actual question.

    In my home country we hv conventional veterinarians but not holistic vets. I read so much about the harm done due to annual jabs
    but am confuse as to which should be done annually and which not? No point asking the vet, got no answer. We are rabies free here.

    How about parasites aside the fleas, ticks and heartworm, what are the others that are prevented by annual jabs?


    • admin

      Hi Jen:
      Thanks so much for visiting and I really appreciate your kind words. I can certainly tell just by how passionate you are, that you are a TRUE dog lover. 😮 I commend you Jen on what you are doing to help dogs by ADOPTING and dedicating your time.

      Regarding your question:
      “How about parasites aside the fleas, ticks and heartworm, what are the others that are prevented by annual jabs?”

      Intestinal parasites are the only other common parasite that I can think of Jen that some vets will test for. This is why TITER TESTS (blood test) are so important. They simply tell whether or not a dog needs to receive another vaccination or not.

      Being in a different part of the world with different rules makes it a little difficult to provide you with better solutions. So, I’m not sure that this will help with your confusion on the issue because speaking from a holistic point of view, no vaccinations are needed annually. The following may help a little:

      Tell your vet the following:
      NOT TO USE combination vaccines and you only want them to use SINGLE VACCINES.

      Ask them if the vaccines that they use are inactivated” or “killed” vaccines vs “modified live”. You want to use INACTIVATED OR KILLED since they are considered a little safer.



      I hope this answers your question a little. You can use an all natural flea and tick spray on your dogs so that you don’t need the use of chemicals, but you still need to use heartworm medicine routinely. I hope this helps.

      If you want to make your own flea or tick spray and mist your dog’s daily, you can do that too:
      Purchase ONLY therapeutic grade essential oils though – I recommend Lemongrass which deters fleas and especially ticks.

      Ten to 20 drops of Lemongrass oil placed in a dark colored, glass, pint sized bottle with spring water or distilled water. Use this to mist your dog daily and then spray his bed as well as doorways and baseboards.

      Hope this helps.
      Janie 😮

  • Joan

    thanks so much, I will look into it. Joan

  • Joan

    Where can you order single vaccines, all I see are the combos? thanks!

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